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There were some consequences, though. The department is located in UNT's Willis Library in the fourth floor Reading Room. Television programsTelecommunications industry, MCI Communications CorporationLuce Press ClippingsAT & T (Firm), Manuscripts and Archives Department, Hagley Museum and Library, MCI Communications Corporation records (Accession 2225). He was a legend in Silicon Valley. Here's money for you. In April 2017, author and neuroscientist Sam Harris published an episode on his popular podcast called Waking Up with an alluring title, Forbidden Knowledge. Donahue's guests are two middle aged men who could really pass as accountants. Lisa:Okay. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. With Pioneer funding, he produced one of these strange extremist publication after another. I'm gonna take a trip to each of these places to see, and I thought some of these trips might be wasted because there would be nothing there. It's giving these ideas air, right? Lisa:It's also stunning to me that when Barry Mehler investigates The Pioneer Fund in the 1980s, they're still pushing the exact same ideas, and the exact same framing as they were in 1937. And so, they always had first, a, a sense of assurity that they were right, and also a sense of urgency, the same sense of urgency that I felt. Rigo:Close. Distillations Podcast | February 21, 2023, innate_podart_900x600x300_episode6_bg.jpeg, Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race, National Endowment for the Humanities: Democracy demands wisdom, The American Breed: Nazi eugenics and the origins of the Pioneer Fund, The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fund, The New Eugenics: Academic Racism in the U.S. Today, The High-Flying, Death-Defying Discovery of Helium. Angela:If, you know, the basis of the study of human difference for a couple of hundred years has been that race is real, you don't let go of it overnight, and so of course they didn't let go of it, uh Of it overnight. Photo credit to Steve Kagan. Roger Pearson, for example, had at least a dozen names that he used, and Barry Mehler and his mentor, Jerry Hirsch, help uncover the deception. They painted the swastika backwards." He knew exactly what they were up to. I think it's important to acknowledge that what they're gonna say is intellectually dishonest, and therefor it doesn't provide a better understanding of them or their ideas. He's, he's got this letter from the president saying that, you know, he's a terrific guy and you should support his publication. Okay, I don't want to make fun of the name in case there's somebody out there who's totally harmless who shares it, but of course that's the name of our rich racist villain. Lisa: Ah, charming. Rigo:So he thought of himself as being well bred, and of good stock. Here's $100. So Rigo, you're one of our producers on our show, Distillations, and you've come in with a story today for us, right? What is this about? Second, it sometimes publishes valid news that I don't find elsewhere." Lisa:Presumably he's not also a race scientist? The Price is Right? The result: Donahue, the longest running syndicated talk show in television history with its 29 year on-air reign. Rigo:Arthur Jensen in particular got more than a million dollars from them. And the whole thing in a way does confirm what Barry Mehler had an inkling of since he was a boy. on September 9, 2018. There are somebody who's at the top. Lisa:So basically Mehler's kitchen table would have been filled with racist propaganda hate mail 24/7 365? Is it still around? If there was one drop of quote, "negro blood" then you were automatically a negro. If you were less than one quarter Jewish then you could be considered, uh, to be Aryan, which was much more lenient than the one drop rule in the United States. February 5, 2022 by . I've never mailed my stuff out, but that was exactly what The Pioneer Fund was doing, and, and it was a, a strategy that they had to disseminate their information. So which is bigger, long or fat. He doesn't actually stay to fight the war with the Nazis, but he brags about his military tourism. Lisa:So what happened to The Pioneer Fund? American media personality Phil Donahue is famous for pioneering and hosting "The Phil Donahue Show," later known as "Donahue." During the War of 1870, astronomer Jules Janssen risked his life for scientific prestige and French patriotism. He was previously married to Marge Cooney. Is he the psychologist whose work is cited in The Bell Curve? It's standard journalism practice to reach out to people if you're gonna talk about them. Barry:They have their own printing presses, their own journals. Rigo:Exactly. 8 No. How does he keep getting the chance to put these ideas forward? And I couldn't give a flying any longer and to the administration and no limit of an administrator is going to tell me how to teach my classes because I'm a tenured professor. Okay. [laughs] You'd probably groan and hope you, like, you could avoid him at a faculty mixer, right? So the short story is that for Barry Mehler, all of this is personal, so when I ask him how he fell into this work, he took me back to his childhood in 1960s New York, where he was just a regular Jewish kid. Lisa:Oh my God, I'm afraid to ask, Rigo, but you're gonna tell me. Mehler's the underdog, and his style was very direct. on the Internet. Bill:Shockley was a very difficult person to work with, and eventually Pioneer ended his funding because he was just turning people off that Pioneer wanted to influence. Lisa:It works sort of like a bat signal, but instead of attracting superheroes, you uncover white supremacists. Lisa:Welcome to Innate: How science invented the Myth of Race: This is episode three: Keepers of the Flame. They review each other's books, they write for each other's journals, so it creates a kind of universe, academic universe within a bubble that outside the bubble, no one takes them seriously, but inside the bubble, they can have a resume that looks rather impressive. Bill:Usually people wanting their research to be funded take the initiative to contact funding agency and say, "Hey, look. So I want to take you back to the 1990s with this video that I found on YouTube. He was the first person to really call them out publicly. He's unorthodox, and he points out how Rushton's ideas are kind of ridiculous. Lisa:I really take Mehler's point there. Rigo:So I asked Barry Mehler about the video. It was much more prevalent in the earlier part of the 20th Century, but as it has become less and less popular among, uh, the academic mainstream, the few people who still adhere to it are those funded by Pioneer. WebPhil Donahue Show interviews, 1984 - Archives & Manuscripts at Duke University Libraries Back to top John O'Toole papers, 1954-1990 and undated Correspondence, 1968-1990 and undated Phil Donahue Show interviews, 1984 Phil Donahue Show interviews, 1984 Containers: Box 21 Using These Materials Info for Visitors How to Request Ordering Rigo:Right, and Murray and his coauthor also credited Richard Lynn for providing expertise on the book. Rigo:The seed of The Pioneer Fund starts in the early 1900s, with a guy named Wickliffe Preston Draper. Play all Lisa:What is this, Wheel of Fortune? What Pearson had done was he brought together all of these fascist intellectuals, academics that had been orphaned by the war, and they needed a place to come together. WebThe Phil Donahue Show, also known as Donahue, is an American television talk show hosted by Phil Donahue that ran for 26 years on national television. That is that your genes, your genetics, determine not only your biological makeup but your character, personality, intelligence level, and so on. Remove constraint Subject: The Phil Donahue Show, American Association of Sex Educators, Counselors, and Therapists (AASECT), International Foundation for Gender Education (IFGE), East Coast FTM Group Organizational Records, International Foundation for Gender Education Publications and Documents, Newspaper and Periodical Clippings (1950-2000), Joseph A. Labadie Collection, University of Michigan, Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. Rigo:Exactly, and you know what comes next is that Drape becomes a cash cow for Laughlin's schemes. Lisa:Okay, let me zoom out a little bit. web pages Find thousands of books, manuscripts, visual materials and unpublished archives from our collections, Recently, you were, uh Ferris State University suspended you for publishing a profanity based video. Lisa:Why does Phil Donahue have so many race scientists on his show? There's two things that were going on. Barry:Here was, uh, a guy who subscribed to The Thunderbolt. Innateis made possible in part by the National Endowment for the Humanities: Democracy demands wisdom. He had his own moment on the Phil Donahue Show in 1980. web pages Los Angeles - 1985 - Janet Leigh Jamie Lee Curtis.ia.mp4, Donahue. News archive:Some of the ideas found in the book, the bell curve are not new. Its run was Paul: And while he's in Europe Draper quite literally pals around with Nazis. Rigo:Yeah. I would send in a membership. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Rigo:Right, exactly. Most of it was junk race science, but some of the research and researchers were arguably legitimate so that if someone accused them of being a racist, they could point to legitimate research they funded. Expressing frustration over teaching in person during the pandemic of viewers sent me the video upset about the language, but a couple of Ferris state students stand by mailer. Here's $1,000." Rigo:Exactly. WebDonahue is joined by the cast of "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of The Desert", as well as the Family Research Institute's founder, Paul Cameron, and drag performer CoCo Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. And so you know where his head's at. It was clear that the anti Semitism was everywhere about me. There's a load of absolute rubish. And on the other hand were the political people who did the actual exploiting. Now, for better or worse, these are all facts. But if you want to go complain to your Dean, you go ahead. By being the first and most vocal critical of The Pioneer Fund and neo Nazis, it made him a target. Lisa:Okay. He's even polished when he starts talking about things like sex. It was very important for them to be able to find a place where they would be appreciated. The American Breed: Nazi eugenics and the origins of the Pioneer Fundby Paul Lombardo, The Funding of Scientific Racism: Wickliffe Draper and the Pioneer Fundby William Tucker, The New Eugenics: Academic Racism in the U.S. Todayby Barry Mehler, Superior: The Return of Race Scienceby Angela Saini. web pages Lisa:The quote that everyone remembers from that trial is when Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough." I had a subscription to all these, you know, Nazi newspapers. William Shockley wasn't really producing anything new with their money, and he had a really prickly personality, so when his character got in the way of the message, The Pioneer Fund actually cut him off. One, it immediately made its way to the mainstream press, and gave the impression that there was now new genetic evidence to prove that there was a difference in intelligence among races. He stumbles his way into Harvard but he has very mediocre grades, and he eventually joins the Army, where he works his way up to the rank of Colonel. McNeil/Leher Report:What has landed the bell curve on the cover of many magazines and Charles Murray on numerous talk shows is that the book also links IQ with race on Mary's bell curve of IQ scores, blacks as a group have an average IQ of 85 whites, 100 Asians, 105. And it's a label they pin on people and then you don't even attend to what the person said. Okay, so how did he get involved? This is so bizarre that nobody will ever be able to take this guy seriously.". Barry:His father left 11 million dollars, um, which was quite a fortune in, in those days. In his four-and-a-half hour Archive interview, Phil Donahue describes the meandering path that led to hosting his long-running talk show, The Phil Donahue Show aka Donahue. Rigo:By keeping the race science flame alive, they created a foundation for the current wave of race scientists to build on. So The Pioneer Fund doesn't really care about the science. He went to rallies and talked to white supremacists. He was also tracking another person who raised red flags for him, someone who was very important to The Pioneer Fund and the neo Nazi movement. Rigo:It seems like it's, like, um, kind of click bait-y television for the time. Lisa: You can really tell from the clip that Mehler's getting under their skin. Rigo:They're successful in keeping their names out of the press, and no one ties the race science they fund to them. Signed, photo. And since these race scientists all knew each other, the journal became kind of like an echo chamber, and they all praised and cited each other's work to give it the veneer of legitimate science. Bill:He went on then to become the editor of a publication called The New Patriot. Lisa:Oh, this is another opportunity for me to go Wickliffe Preston Draper, isn't it? The Bell Curve was one of The Pioneer Fund's greatest hits for two reasons. These things meant a lot to him, and he has a huge inheritance burning a hole in his pocket, so he's looking around for a great social cause to pour his money into, so he becomes drawn to what else but eugenics. Lisa:Right. 7 (July, 1991), Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. It was because I was not a mainstream scholar that I was able to get away with all the things that I was able to, to do, and I did survive. Yes, and then these checks were often for ample amounts in the thousands of dollars to people, uh, just because Draper or Pioneer liked what they were doing. It's to get the message out, "You can't go through the Jews because they distort everything.". No one asked any embarrassing questions, you know-. WebPhil Donahue Show Transcripts (Transcripts), 1981-1982 Scope and Contents The Lectures, Speeches, Interviews series primarily consists of material related to the many lectures, I mean, I annoyed them a lot, and so, the- they're calling up civil rights groups, the people that might know me, and trying to, uh, get information, and they said this in their investigation, you know, uh, for a possible lawsuit. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. Rigo:And Laughlin was on that wave length. Richard Lynn was the editor of the Mankind Quarterly at this time. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Rigo:I am, and he starts out telling a sort of funny story about seeing Rushton at a conference, but then he gets really serious. Barry:So I got a mailing from Canada from Ernst Zundel. Phil Donahue Show was my favourite! Rigo:They are still around. Rigo:Yeah. additions to the collection, news, and events. This becomes very clear when you start looking into the citations of the book. At this point, Barry Mehler decides not to become a rabbi, and instead pursues the history of science, and in particular, the history of Nazis and race science. It brought together two different groups, those American scientists who were opposed to the civil rights movement, and who wanted to emphasize the inferiority of Blacks, and European scientists who were still promoting the kind of racial hygiene that had been at the core of the policies instituted by the Third Reich. I mean the first thing that comes to mind for me is The Bell Curve by Charles Murray, which was huge. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. Uploaded by Lisa:I'm gonna pull my academic hat on for a second and say an impact score is basically something that measures the importance of a given journal, so the higher the impact score, the more influential it is, so you measure that by citations and references, who's used the journal and cited it in their work. Rigo:What's interesting about eugenics is that it's a dirty word now, but in the 1920s and the early 1930s, they were mainstream ideas, they were in vogue. Unquote. I mean, I wish that some of the millions of people who watch that video would, like, learn about his work, his life's work. on the Internet. Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer. Lisa:This is exactly what The Pioneer Fund ultimately wanted, right? For example, when I went on the shows, you know, the audience was overwhelmingly on my side. Rigo:In 1961, he co founded a journal called the Mankind Quarterly, and guess who's funding the journal? WebDescription: Talk show host of the 1980s. ". Lisa:That makes sense. Rigo:Exactly, and they develop a playbook to ensure their survival. So, Lisa, I know that you've done some research on eugenics because we've done other episodes that touch on it. There are no reviews yet. Rigo:They're projecting, obviously. Rigo:Why do you think that is? Um, Literally rides on a Nazi tank, into the city of Bilbao, uh, at the time when Franco's army is laying seeds to the place, uh, only a few weeks after the infamous bombing of the, of the city of Akaka in the Basque region. The Special Collections Department collects and preserves rare and unique materials including rare books, oral histories, university archives, historical manuscripts, maps, microfilm, photographs, art and artifacts. Bottom line, Wickliffe Draper's money makes the journal possible. This episode examines a much more overt kind of scientific racism: by telling the story of a racist, wealthy, underground confederacythat has funded nearly every race scientist out there. Jensen's vague ideas about intelligence being inherited were explicitly connected to the growing neo Nazi movement. And we just went down a whole list, and, you know, and he confirmed that he was all those people. Funding wasn't an issue for them, they had Wickliffe Draper. All together, he received about a million dollars. MSNBC canceled Phil Donahues talkshow after an internal memo (leaked to the All Your TV website, 2/25/03) argued that he would be a difficult public face for NBC in a time of war. And the thing he had to hide were 17citations that came from a little known journal called the Mankind Quarterly. Search the history of over 797 billion Rigo:No one has proven that these threats came from The Pioneer Fund, but what we do know is that The Pioneer Fund actually hired a private investigation firm. Rigo:Exactly. 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Wow, William Shockley. Let me read this. I'm sure the teenagers loved it. Rigo:So just to give you an update on what Mehler's been up to recently, I asked him about some hot water he got into, and I'll play you some tape. Lisa:So it strikes me as we're watching this footage of the Phil Donahue Show that the audience is not responding the way Rushton would like them to, I think. Mehler connected the dots. He recalled one instance when his grade school son, Isaac, wanted to go play in the woods with his friend, but his volunteer body guard stopped him from going. Bill:He liked to be referred to as Colonel Draper, or the Colonel. When I looked at that, I said, "Here, finally, is a Nazi I don't have to worry about. Unquote. Paul: And then writes about it in an, a newspaper article that is syndicated and sent to a number of places around the country. Uploaded by Bill:There is this long tradition of academic racism which Pioneer has continued. What's going on with him? 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