curing tobacco in jars

As you said, I leave the "Best/Biggest" plant to flower and take the seeds from it for the next season- tho of course you only need one seed pod to get 1000's of tiny seeds for next year's crop. Adrian Rankin-Maclean on August 10, 2020: Very informative article I tried many years ago to grow tobacco, plants grew fine but mucked up the curing process, I want to flavour the stuff for pipe smoking, I have a very large jar of glycerine in the garage could I use that with port and brandy, spray the leaf, let dry, then press and mature but for how long - best guess for a guide pls, also I want to give some hand rolling tobacco to my colleagues at Christmas, I'm harvesting and curing now,(August) once dried I'm putting it in a plastic air tight box, will that be long enough time for it to mellow/mature. The primary tobacco curing methods consist of air curing, sun curing, fire curing, and flue curing. In the next batch I think I will see if placing the leaves in a large plastic bag will work better. Maybe I'm ruining it. They are about 20 inches now. First time grower. Keeping it right in the middle keeping the leaves are warm and supple seems to be the goal..The layer of wet napkins and saran wrap helps a little to hold in moisture between mistings. You must log in or register to reply here. I suggest that you let only one of your plants go to flower for seeds for next season's crop. Question: Is a tobacco crop ok around frost? The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on November 07, 2015: Hi quicksand, long time no hear, How's it going? I never over fill the boiler with water or leaves. Have you ever tried soaking leaves to flavour them? For menthol I just added some mint leaves. Pinch them out as well. Sun curing can be done by setting the leaves in the sun for a week until dry. Isn't it possible to sterilize the pile of tobacco and stop all the fermentation by having temperature too high? Any concerns of the foam smell transferring to the tobacco?A: I know the foam smell you are talking about, Its an undeniable chemically semi-sweet smellI've experienced it in the past when using a hot wire to cut foam blocksno doubt very toxic! What is the next step after the fermentation is ready ? You get the picture. Hopefully I get mature plants later. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. From a broader perspective, there are a few variables that influence how tobacco ages. Be sure the leaves are protected from direct sunlight, which may burn them. Great read. Answer: If it works for you, keep doing it. The plants grew taller than corn stalks, with leaves as broad as my chest. Add the parts, tools needed to create the lids so they're air tight, medical grade silicone lines, manifolds, check valves, RH hygrometer, the grommets alone cost $50 for 10 (with a minimum . Also does anyone know how to make Copenhagen style "dip"? Answer: Until the leaves are dry and brown/yellow, after hanging, several weeks or in an oven at low heat an hour or so. Answer: It's fine with light frosts. Hanging Tobacco Leaves for Drying 1 Dry tobacco in the fall for the best results. Thanks. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on March 15, 2014: [img]http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm292/biguran/s[/img], GOT it, Prilep 66, oriental fom macedonia, and i love it, has a taste like diped in honey, TY Mr. TOF :), im getting some cured orientals prilep 66, will try and let you know. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on July 17, 2018: Try misting the dried leaves with a mixture of oil of cloves (from the chemist) and water. I have 4 that I cycle between curing jars to monitor humidity in the jars. Please help me Old Firm! Remove the leaves and tear them off of the stems before storing or using your tobacco. Fill your curing jars 75% full. Problem solved! Our politicians will waste tens of millions on a futile flag referendum (and then probably twist the results - the head of the CIA visited last week) then they tax the Hell out of smokers - over 90% of the retail cost of tobacco returns to the government in some form of taxation (a conservative estimation) but smokers are denied the medical treatment of others as they "caused their own problems". References. I assume that you want to either roll a cigarette or use a pipe. !, i want to ask you why? We were told this by an old DSIR nerd, a friend tried it reconds it better than brought menthols. So none of the tobacco was touching the water. Just wanted to see how it's done. Last Updated: January 20, 2021 If pile of tobacco is big enough, and insulation is as good as it is inside the foam cooler, wouldn't there be enough heat generated by fermentation process so that no external heat will be required? It's half a keg with a bin lid and a light globe for heat. Got the seeds in the germinator today , wanting an early jump on the season , great weather this last week and hoping for no frosts.. 11 years ago Reckon next year I will have to double my crop, I may be a bit shy this year. Hang the tobacco where the humidity is consistently around 65 percent. Set up a dehumidifier if you don't have a dry spot to store the leaves in so they dry faster and don't develop mold. For tips on how to separate the tobacco from the stem when the leaves are dry, read on! I would like to make a kiln, and Im thinking about rigging it up with 12v solar so I can justify leaving it on, but in the meantime I wonder whether leaving the jars there as opposed to somewhere else for a year would make a significant difference. Did this ever work to produce good cigars surf monkey ? I will be 76 next month and live in the UK. Also I wanted to add that the post is great and very easy to follow ..I am in Aus and have been growing now for a while and am getting some extremely good results but I am still waiting to have my first taste..I think the hardest part for me is going to be the cutting as I like a very fine cut and if anyone can suggest something that is not to expensive I will be very happy, anyway thanks for reading and hope to hear from some of you out there even in Qld..Cheers. Remember these are monstrous plants that are supposed to reach 7' tall, if you can provide a minimum 5 gallon pot, lots of full direct sun and water, your plants will flourish! Hang these sticks (or string the lines) somewhere dry, out of the way, and preferably warm. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on March 06, 2015: I chucked some seeds in the fridge last year; planted them in portable greenhouse in september and have a bumper crop drying in my garage now. Also, in the images above you can see the vent holes I cut in the top and bottom of the coolerI have since plugged them up to hold in the humiditythere was too much ventilation going on. I've had some specific varieties that were not particularly good until 18 months, In theory, could I just chuck my jars in say the hot water cupboard? Very refreshing to be able to find the simple info you want without having read heaps of seriously boring rubbish at the same time!! Jars can also be an alternative to cellaring in the tin. During two years in Vanuatu where home-grown tobacco is available in the markets (cured and twisted into braids) I discovered I could make a "brew" just as good as my favourite pipe tobacco "Amphora". That being said, so can drinking, singing off-key, eating too much (or not enough) meat, and so on. It won't taste like much but it won't kill you. I've found this setup makes the temperature get much too high, (due to the excellent insulation of the cooler, the cooler gets cumulatively hotter and hotter). Live in California. grown though through thirty years did need a lot more aging then actual curing.But I don't consider anything dead in a jar to be curing, this is aging in my book and curing takes place during the death of the living cells . Tobacco seedlings ready for transplanting outside in the sun. If I do this will it ruin the final curing process? Answer: I grow the one that I originally bought from King's Seeds in Katikati NZ years ago. I then dip the jar, short of the lid, back into the boiling water using the tongs. Answer: Curing tobacco is pretty much just letting it dry until it turns goldish. The host saw me wandering around puffing on my pipe and he kindly gave me a tobacco plant in a pot. Question: How long are you supposed to cure tobacco for? the pic was just of some plants that had mold growth on them. It should take about 4-8 weeks for the leaves to dry out entirely, but it may take longer depending on the variety of tobacco and your climate. It is only recently that I have heard any mention of ammonia occurring in the drying process, and I personally doubt whether it has much effect on the finished product. Put tobacco in jar. You are so right, they do adapt to the area. I have it running on a low heat for up to two hours checking on the tobacco and turning it throughout the process. It's not exactly very warm here. You do need LARGE pots, it grows a huge root ball. I just save some seed year by year. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on September 09, 2014: kiwi_john aka the old fart on September 09, 2014: well planting season is upon us; i've got a shitload of seeds (no not from the dunny) so fingers toes and eyes all crossed for a bumper crop.I'VE GOT ALL THE GOOD STUFF : SEED GERMINAING MIX.MINI GREENHOUSE.NO EXPENSE SPARED TO SAVE A $. I grow over 100 + plants - mainly in pots but some in the ground. this is a couple of hours later.. its a little sweaty box now, Reply Pots in the greenhouse should be fine, tobacco's very hardy. Question: Is fermenting necessary to grow and cure tobacco at home? always use distilled water in the boiler. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on January 21, 2016: Hi Hops, beer and 'baccy go together mate, have a top New Year too. Love it. Question: Would you mind if I adapted your excellent work here for use in the UK? Like some others I came upon your article whilst looking for info on curing tobacco. It depends on what you want the tobacco for. I've gone 2 weeks to 6 months. If it's just for the fun of growing the stuff and possibly to use the leaves to make a bug spray, a couple of plants will do fine. I didn't realize you had all these messages! Soon, you'll notice that tobacco is quite an attractive ornamental with small, pretty, pink flowers. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on June 16, 2016: Hi there gepeTooRs , nice to know that you approve, although I can't take any credit for the loading pace, that's all HubPages doing. Question: My tobacco leaves have been hanging for around 3 months, the tips seem to keep going brittle so I have misted them with water as they have become brittle again, is this method ok? they were small, but still over 6' high. Before starting here's a small note of discretion: Typically tobacco growing hobbyist raise and cure these plants for the pure enjoyment of taking care of this fast growing monster! On the tobacco front. Question: How can I get the right smell and taste for my homegrown tobacco? the temp is 60-65oF humidity 60-65% for the cure i wouldn't go down passed 50oF or above 75 the high temp will evaporate trichomes and low temps will make the heads brittle and fall off easily. Growth will stop until the weather warms up, then continue, but the plants will be smaller. I am going to scour around and see if I can find some seeds. A lot of tobaccos's taste sweetens with salt - folks will mix maybe a 1/4 teaspon of salt in 8-10 ounces of distilled water, lay the tobacco out on a tray, mist it with the salty solution, allow to dry and then put it in the curing jars. The best way to do this is pictured on step 1, hang leaves to dry and let nature take its course: Gather your harvested green leaves, use a zip tie at the stems and bundle into 1-4 leaf bunches, (be sure to allow air between the leaves, if the leaves stick together, they will mold). The wide mouth makes it easy to get your buds in and out of the jar without making a mess, and it has an airtight lid that will keep your buds from losing moisture during curing. You'll have lots of them. There is great potential for a wonderfully cured crop at the end of the growing season, however this hobby shouldn't be taken as a way to save on your tobacco spending money as there is a lot of time and labor invested with a lot of potential for crop failure due many factors: both while growing then the potential of mold during the curing process! I have been advised that I must ferment to improve the flavour, but more importantly to remove the ammonia which is pretty bad for you. There are other ways to grow tobacco and other ways to cure the stuff. As you know i don't smoke anymore, but gotta thank John Keye for the taxes, and the opportunity for extra income ( wink wink ), just follow the advice given here Jen, you cant go wrong, I gathered some seeds from a garden not knowing it was tobacco.They have grown amazingly.Thanks to your practical info I'm setting about drying the leaves .Might find a use for my grandads pipes in a rack yet .Thanks. Compared with correctly grown plants. Within a few hours the sun begins to bleach it. Turned out that he was given the plant by his pal who had been Chief Blender with British American Tobacco (BAT) so the guy knew what he was doing. The site loading pace is amazing. Virginia tobacco, the stuff of commerce, is one of the hardiest plants you'll ever grow. If you want cheap alcohol dissolve a kilo of sugar in 4 liters of warm water, dump in some yeast, or a handful of raisins/sultanas, cover the container with a tea-towel or similar to keep out the bugs and wild yeasts( or you'll end up with vinegar), leave it until it stops bubbling (probably 2-3 weeks) and you'll end up with alcohol at about 10%. There are all sorts of bells and whistles you can add to enhance the end result, but YOU DON'T HAVE TO! Allow 2 meters headroom if you keep them inside and remember to pick out the sideshoots growing in the leaf joins (just like tomatoes do) they can be planted too for a later crop. What you do with it then is your own damned business. -Week 4 the tobacco chamber should have the sweet smell of a walk in humidor. At which temperature fermentation stops? on Step 5, when air curing has happened with my plants there are vast diffrents in colour between the diffrent leafs some are dark brown - light brown but some are a very dark green.. they are cured they just seem to hold there colour..? Simply hang in a sheltered area and let nature take its course. Thank you for posting this. If it looks a bit damp or won't light he sticks it in the warming tray of his oven for a while. Moreover, The contents are masterpiece. You can store the leaves in a humidor or even in a plastic bag. Fill the jars about three quarters of the way, leaving the other quarter empty. Hi we live in sunny Bay of Plenty and want to give it a go. [1] 2 Pick leaves that are a pale-yellow for drying. Wash off any dirt, though. Spread the leaves out so they're at least 1 inch (2.5 cm) apart to give them plenty of space to dry. Some say that it should be left hanging for two years, though I've found that two or three months is quite enough. Having my first try at it and given I'm in the far north east of Scotland I'm having quite good results so far, that said been an unusually good Sumer. . ** This project was created last year (2008 harvest) to provide address a common question in the tobacco growing hobby, discussing the critical points of curing tobacco. I am thinking about trying this year for the first time. Answer: It should be okay in a large bucket. Wow what a hub I started growing this summer only 3 plants thoe they are 6feet I'd say they now have Pritty pink flowers I harvested around 50 or so leaves hung them on nylon 1 month ago they are turning nice and golden I have them in my garage where I go for a quite smoke and stear at them only but wondering what they are going to be like I'm glad I came across this hub it has put my mind at ease a little and also given me some great ideas, Because of the heart problems i'm moving to Central Hawkes Bay to be with family. , i bought 1 kg virginia tobacco leaves, its sun cured, but its really smells bad !! at home depot, clamp assembly is not needed)-30W light bulb (heat source)-Aluminum foil-Clean paper towels-Plastic bag-Sterilized spray bottle (use bleach solution to clean, rinse and dry thoroughly)-Distilled water. Anyhow, I ordered from them and began growing. dry in shade, this process avoids crumbling product also. Some years ago I stumbled upon tobacco seeds (for the first time) in a Richters plant/seed catalogue out of Canada ( I live in the U.S). The product was a gentler and more aromatic smoke when it landed in Europe than when it left the "New World". Will they taste better? On the plus side: Home grown tobacco contains far less chemicals and no additives when compared to the stuff the tobacco industry produces. I fugured: "since im griwing broccoli and carrots I might as well griw sone 'backy too!" whether it's fit to drink is another matter! Oh yeah, adding flavor.any ideas on flavoring the bacco? This is a brilliant step-by-step on how to get to the end product I'm looking for so thanks so much mate! Built a box frame 2'6" sq. When the leaves are brown and the edges have curled slightly, the process is complete. The dried leaves will be slightly sticky, and theyll have the feeling of very thin leather. I think I'm going to try to grow some to use for smudging and offerings (Spiritual purposes). Do not tighten at this point. Just thought i'ld let you know the 'head start' theory appeared to work. wikiHow is where trusted research and expert knowledge come together. Thank you so much for putting up this site. Curing is a 3 part process:1) Drying (color curing): to take out majority of the moisture. Make sure the leaves are not touching each other, the walls, or the floor. The best time of year to dry outdoors is during the harvest season, end of Summer, before the first frost, humidity is typically perfect in most areas of the USA. Wear sterile disposable gloves and fill each jar about of the way full with your dried and trimmed buds. Spray water, port, rum, honey dissolved in any of the aforementioned, or pretty well any consumable liquid. This article was co-authored by wikiHow Staff. The bought stuff has additives to keep it going, such as saltpeter (potassium nitrate, the main ingredient of gunpowder). The dried leaves should have a slightly sweet smell from the curing process. Smokingpipes is your one stop shop for Tobacco Jars Pipe Accessories and all your tobacco smoking needs. I went with nicotiana rustica and typical virginia strains. You too can join the ranks of tobacco plant enthusiasts and with some luck and planning, your efforts may be rewarded with a homegrown cigar! If you're limited in space, plant as many as you can. Misting it with Vodka or Rum (or some other alcohol including Port) and letting it dry may help, as well as imparting a nice flavor. Mine is 40ltr any old water boiler come tea earn will do. After fermentation (kilning), tobacco aroma and taste may change significantly over a few days, with noticeable change becoming more subtle after that. Put jar in kiln. Sun for a week until dry grew taller than corn stalks, with as. 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